tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post112949035207519696..comments2023-08-04T04:41:39.813-07:00Comments on Of Looking At A Blackbird: To Pantoum or Not To PantoumUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post-1129526235231068662005-10-16T22:17:00.000-07:002005-10-16T22:17:00.000-07:00Hi, C. Dale. I've been wondering how you are. Nic...Hi, C. Dale. I've been wondering how you are. Nice to hear from you. <BR/><BR/>And Diane, I don't know now if you're joking or not, but I can't see the Gertrude Stein as a pantoum, which has a more lyrical form of repetition. Lyrical is not a word I'd associate with Gert. Anyway I like the way you handle the repetition in the poem as it is.Beverlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18306598876971505623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post-1129518265251695762005-10-16T20:04:00.000-07:002005-10-16T20:04:00.000-07:00Yeah, and I was only kidding, but on second though...Yeah, and I <I>was</I> only kidding, but on second thought, maybe it's not such a bad idea, to get a flavor of Ms. Stein without plagiarizing her. After all, repetition was a hallmark of her style.<BR/><BR/>And, btw, I also like Cecilia Woloch's poem.Diane K. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204316534769002428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post-1129515553790028152005-10-16T19:19:00.000-07:002005-10-16T19:19:00.000-07:00I think you've put your finger on a key question o...I think you've put your finger on a key question of how much repetition a poem can stand. Modern taste seems to prefer variation to repetition, and I probably do too, but a poem with NO repetition seems awfully puritannical. Children love repetition (read me that story again), animals love repetition (toss that stick AGAIN, and toss it just like you did the last time), and lovers love repetition (ooh, do THAT again ...) It seems to make perfect sense that Cecilia Woloch found a pantoum the right form for a teenager's first experience of romance, sex, and horses.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471547669854013234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post-1129510907184655122005-10-16T18:01:00.000-07:002005-10-16T18:01:00.000-07:00As for me, I don't like writing them either--in fo...As for me, I don't like writing them either--in form, that is--I never even attempted a pantoum and wouldn't know if my poem needed to be a pantoum if it came up and bit me.<BR/><BR/>My God, maybe that's it. Maybe my Gertrude Stein poem needed to be a pantoum. Okay, just kidding.<BR/><BR/>Since you brought the other poem you wrote to workshop and not the pantoum, I can't comment on your pantoum, but I liked the poem you brought very much.<BR/><BR/>It was a good workshop, though I'm still embarassed about my stupid reading of Melissa's poem. How literal can a person get?Diane K. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204316534769002428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11779531.post-1129501356844192812005-10-16T15:22:00.000-07:002005-10-16T15:22:00.000-07:00Beverly! A post from you.I understand what you me...Beverly! A post from you.<BR/><BR/>I understand what you mean, except I don't like writing them on top of that. I think I have one pantoum, one villanelle, and one sestina to my name. A few sonnets. That's it. I just have no impulse to try them again anytime soon. The good poems in these forms are amazing. Most of what I see around in these forms though is not so amazing. I guess it is like a lot of things.<BR/><BR/>That said, if you think you have found a pantoum, chances are that you have!C. Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270640200393742125noreply@blogger.com